One of the most unbearable withdrawal symptoms reported are brain zaps (also sometimes called brain shivers, brain shocks, head shocks, and electrical shocks). I experienced 2 things. I took 10mg of Buspar twice and got the head zaps and stopped taking them. Always comes with any eye movements and worse if I push my eyes side to side. Can you suggest something else I could try? Hope that gives you a little something to hold on to. So I'm pretty convinced it is the drug for me, but my doctor was skeptical, thinking perhaps a coincidental injury or disc problem. I'm very glad as of your posting your brain zaps went away, but just wanted to post a heads up and a just in case because Effexor is what actually caused mine. I have AWFUL brain zaps, not nice. In Feb. I found supliments really helped, I found loads of info on the forams, I found very quick relief with the help of Evening Primrose and starflower oil combo, B complex, magnesium all help to reduce withdrawals. (I used to file a small fraction off each antidepressant tablet with a nail file rather than splitting to reduce it really slowly). amitriptyline + fentanyl patches. I’m so glad I just found this page, too. It worked wonders and leveled me out, having a more noticeable positive effect on me than my SSRI antidepressant had. I am just now researching brain zaps, so other than experiencing them I don’t know much. They felt zingy. Dreams have been described as dress rehearsals for real life, opportunities to gratify wishes, and a form of nocturnal therapy. I understand how you describe this. Thank you for your reply Kalea Dean! my brain zaps seem to be related to Serotonin. I hope that you are ok and that the zaps got better. I want to come off of this cymbalta, but do not want to deal with this. Doctor didn't warn me about this experience but I doubt he knew about it anyway (and I needed the anti-depressant anyway). It would be so strong that I could actually hear and feel the electrical charge in my brain and feel it’s effect on my brain. I don't know if I am building up an immunity to it? It causes sudden and severe problems in your brain and nervous system. But people have also reported feeling brain zaps after discontinuing the use of other medications, including: benzodiazepines , such as alprazolam (Xanax) amphetamine salts ( Adderall ) This can result in severe convulsions and a loss of consciousness. Hi Leigh L.: Brain zaps on Cymbalta are a common but not fully explained phenomenon. The shock coming off Clozaril were far more traumatizing than the seizures. They’re called brain zaps because it triggers repeated electric shock like sensations in the brain, which may extend to other parts of the body. Because SSRIs, benzodiazepines, ecstacy and Adderall are all associated with an increase in the brain's level of GABA, discontinuing these drugs are likely associated with low brain levels of GABA. I felt so stupid when I let my doctor convince me that paxil was not responsible for these withdrawal symptoms I read about online that worried me when I was first prescribed paxil. Once they started around 11am, they happened about every 5 minutes for several hours. Typically when I turn my head in either direction. Alcohol has many effects on the body and can potentially damage the brain. So yes...this theory makes perfect sense. But she didn't want me driving with strong zaps. My psychiatrist doesn't think it's a physical thing and that calling it "brain zaps" gives it more credence to my anxiety, so I just kind of stopped talking to him about it. I feel it is essential to confirm these patients are not having seizures. Could it be that? The nurse came out to see me and seen how depressed I was, so the doctor put me back on it in June I believe. Berit Brogaard, D.M.Sci., Ph.D., is a professor of philosophy and the Director of the Brogaard Lab for Multisensory Research at the University of Miami. This is the way in which our brains respond to danger, preparing us to either fight or run away. When the Effexor was increased by my doctor so would the frequency and intensity of my brain zaps. Sorry to sound so dramatic. Last year I spent 48 hours in the ER bed. A few more, and they are gone. Dr. Brogaard, However, I found out that it was even more helpful than that when I weaned off my SSRI and experienced HUGE brain zap problems. Hi ladies, I am also coming off effexor. The commonality amongst the drugs/medications mentioned is that they increase gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) activity in the brain. As I understand it from another article i read - the reason for brain zaps/ SDS is the disruption of "acetylcholine" levels in the brain (which can be maintained/ increased during withdrawal by taking the supplement). Common withdrawals: electric shock-like feelings, dizziness, My mother was on effexor and had a horrible time getting off of it. I also heard anxiety can cause this, but the weird thing is I normally get them when my anxiety is not acting up and rarely when it is. Has anybody else had these it’s a small shock in your brain that lasts for a second just as you drift to sleep. Hi, your post really resonated with me. Sometimes brain zaps may also feel like blood rushing to the head. One might then assume that supplements or drugs that increase the levels of GABA in the brain might help with brain zaps. Brain zaps are commonly reported electrical shock sensations that are often experienced during discontinuation of antidepressant medications. And unlike the rest of the population who gets these, when I decided enough was enough and started to taper off of them only then did the brain zaps decrease. It's easily testable my simply moving your eyes back and fourth. And it is not well described in any list of side effects. or is this my life now ? Very concerned about that. I've been on Paxil for over ten years. Learn more here. It's rather unpleasant. Surely a lot of valuable information can be learned from looking at this closer ? Effexor side effects (and this would include other antidepressants as well as Effexor) may cause permanent brain damage. I could feel it happening. Their combination can be deadly. GBM, Of course neurontin would help as would lorazepam or similar meds for seizure control. However, can you imagine such a sensation happening in your brain constantly, or going weeks without a jolting sensation to feeling them almost every day? For me too it definitely scales in intensity with the dose of the drug! The bottom line is, you don't have to worry about these symptoms, but they do require action before they can be eliminated. I didn't read about that until much after I'd already went through it or I may have tried that, but yeah. Adderall, and MDMA too, can increase the activity of GABA in some parts of the brain, primarily owing to their increase of available serotonin in the brain. What Causes Brains Zaps? Tonight they are so bad that I could brain myself with a hammer - look left 'zap zap zap' look right'zap zap zap' the cat wants you to feed him, look down 'zap zap zap' Hi, I was wondering if you could tell me more about your brain zaps and underlying brain cancer. Some sufferers describe them as "a sudden jolt or buzz in the brain." She also consulted psychiatry where she works, and they had no idea either, other than in withdrawal! but sometimes that can become annoying. They are not a knowledgeable resource. So if you're still on Effexor, and ever plan on coming off of it, please be careful. I did them from 8am to the evening for seven days, pretty much every hour. I have had headaches at night for 10 years, I am forced to get out of bed around 4 a.m. this morning I realized the headaches are being caused by the shocks. The brain zaps cause a lot of discomfort and anxiety; it makes it almost impossible to sleep. So it seems a rare few of us get to enjoy the zaps while taking some meds. I'm back down to 75 mg now and still get some mild zaps, though I did not experience them at all when I first started Effexor at 75 mg before going up to 225, so that gives me hope that I can stay on my current dose. I had electric shocks coming only off Clozaril, after being wrongly prescribed it for 14 years. So, maybe if you're secretly having a GABA problem, something like this might help? Basically, withdrawl symptoms. A massive electric sensation that shot from my brain stem through my body and "out" my finger and toe tips. Besides brain zaps, patients can experience flu-like symptoms, sleep problems and mood disturbances. I would ask you Dr. Almost 14000 people helping one another. It's miserable. That is when the brain zaps went from mild and annoying but not too bad to horrible full body jolts that would begin somewhere in the back of my head near my neck and travel all the way down my spine exiting from my feet. I would awake immediately after feeling disoriented in time and space and then immediately drop into a very deep sleep almost like passing out. Brain zaps can cause some of the following symptoms and sensations: Sudden brain shivers, jolts or buzzes in the brain. Hi perhaps try googling dystonia or akathisia, I've had head tremors for a while and it may be those I'm not sure if its related to brain zaps or not. A person experiencing these zaps may get dizzy, feel minor pain, and high levels of discomfort. But, my pharmacy is closed until Monday morning. But i am starting a super low dosage of zoloft which i take in the PM. I have to disagree with the hypothesis about brain zaps being symptomatic of withdrawal as I was prescribed Buspar for menopausal anxiety and do not take any other meds at all. Obviously not saying it isn't happening to you, but what I AM saying is that you should absolutely get this checked out as there could be a different underlying cause. So why would I trust doctors and why aren't these findings causing an increase in research in the matter so dumb dumb doctors can get a better idea of what is real? I am currently getting off cymbalta and am getting the brain zaps. could the rapid eye movement of sleep be causing the shocks while I sleep? Light flashes included photophobia for me as well as vertigo. As soon as I have enough money to buy some pot I'm not gonna touch alcohol for a long time. To make matters worse, alcohol suppresses glutamate, which is an “excitatory” neurotransmitter. I'm relieved to find out I am not alone. I find that worrisome. 3 Find them in food sources, like eggs, fish, beans, and dairy as well as nutritional supplements. Wind from a fan suddenly hitting my face and anytime i touched water triggered this. I took MDMA for NYE and the brain zaps are getting more and more frequent as time passes. All this said, I'm not reading from anyone that the brain zaps eventually go away. I'm also cycling through other medications to help with depression. Once he gave me a protocol exercise to do on a daily basis every hour, they drastically decreased 90% after seven days. From all the drugs I've ever tried, only the neurotoxic serotonergic substances caused brain zaps for me. But it appears to make people who are trying to wean themselves off of the drug feel that they have no choice but to continue taking the drug. I don't understand why I'm getting this, when everything I'm reading has to do with zaps on withdrawal. There's no question about it. Another things that would provoke them was walking through doorways. We have a support group and brain zaps are a fairly common symptom as well, and I had them. Btw, I'm also a combat Veteran. Advice. It would be very interesting to have data on patients who have both been treated with benzodiazepines and SSRI/SNRI vs just SSRI/SNRI to look at the differences in reported brain zap occurence. It may be 1 sentence or two but i regret it. Having an awful time with these just as I drift off to sleep. Has anyone happened to them that alcohol alone caused them to have brain zaps? And becomes more frequent when I'm exercising. In between that I get these excruciating pains in my temple or my body just feels like I got hit by a bus. Anything at this point is better than just living with it. When you drink alcohol, the fight or flight response in your brain is suppressed, making you feel relaxed. Anyway, I am working with a Naturopath to help with my anxiety and hopefully she will help me with my brain zaps too. My problem started with Zoloft which was the first antidepressant I was prescribed but that one seemed to plateau after a few months do my doctor went with Effexor next. Cookies help us deliver our Services. However, I get how they could be “zaps” as well. as if to remind me to breathe. Randal, I don't have experience with Venafaxine, but I run a group called Lyrica Survivors and many members have had brain zaps. If anyone ever mentions the word zaps or electric shocks, recommend a Neurological Chiropractor. Recently there has been talk of Paxil causing dementia so my doctor wants me off of it and on Effexor. Still have depression and it hasn't gotten much better but medications have not been much of a help to me, instead they've only added to my depression unfortunately. I would suggest talking to a doctor that you trust (you know, those sometimes hard-to-find ones that listen to suggestions and are proactive in looking for new solutions to old problems) about possibly trying Gabapentin. They tend to be apparently uncaused sensations of electricity briefly passing through the brain. This will happen over and over all night long. REM Sleep (Rapid Eye Movement) REM sleep (rapid eye movement) or eye movement, in general, is also suspect of causing brain zaps. I want to try having a drink or two to see if that helps, but aren't you supposed to avoid alcohol when taking SSRIs? Currently, I take nothing. A number of different descriptions are in use for what appears to be a similar phenomenon. When alcohol is removed from the system after it has become fine-tuned to function in its presence, the brain becomes overstimulated and must adjust back to its normal chemistry. I hope you are better. Sometime more than a little. In the past, while taking numerous medications, I sometimes would be awaken from my sleep due to a huge brain shock. I had to go on Zoloft (Sertraline) during my pregnancy due to horrific anxiety. Dear Nat, I just wish it would go away. No more head zaps.My anxiety was not very elevated so I meditate, or do light exercise, or yoga, or write and my anxiety diminishes. share. One more time: If your having electric shocks or zaps caused by any psychiatric medication, see a Neurological Chiropractor. Any alcohol which cannot be metabolized is absorbed in the brain. I know that alcohol can temporarily boost serotonin levels a bit, but that doesn't explain having brain zaps from it as it's the lack of it what usually causes it. I have shocks most often in the morning when I first wake. Some people feel like their whole head is affected, while others say only a small part of their brain feels like it’s involved. The shocks eventually led to seizures. Patients are rarely informed about his as well, and I assume some, who have never experienced this before, get rather upset and anxious about what's going on,- leading to unecessary doctors visits and time off work. The other thing I experienced was like an extremely sudden brain shut down that was just as fast turning my brain back on. Thanks for any further insights or comments. When I go off of it by the third day I start getting what I can only describe as a very high electrical shock in my brain that will immobilize me. I'm still getting the zaps. 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